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Fordson Industrial Engine Serial Numbers
by Jimcdbts » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:24 pm
At: www.fordsontractorpages.nl

The Fordson tractor engine was available as an industrial engine from the outset of tractor production, however in 1957 with the introduction of the mk2 engine and also the introduction of the Thames Trader a new range of Industrial engines was introduced the 589E, 590E, 591E and 592E 4 and 6 cylinder petrol and diesel engines. These were produced on a dedicated engine line and were introduced in 1957 and made until July 1967 for 6 cyl and April 1970 for 4 cyl . They all have serial numbers beginning with S and some can be found fitted to Fordson majors as replacements. Thames trader engines can also sometimes be found in the tractors, and these also have separate serial numbers with a different prefix 530E for the 4 cylinder diesel. I have copied the serial numbers into tables and will post here. it is an incomplete listing as i am missing the data for early and late Thames trader engines and some early numbers for the industrials.

In March 1965 the engine line at Dagenham started to produce the new 2700 range derived from the earlier range. These were produced as both industrial and truck engines for the new D series. The two engine ranges going down the line until July 1967 for 6 cyl and April 1970 for 4 cyl, when the old range was discontinued. In March 1964 the engine castings for all tractor, truck and industrial engines ceased to be sourced from the Dagenham foundry and were instead supplied by Sterling Metals Ltd of Nuneaton. All engine castings for the old range of engines up until April 1970 came from this source.

The serial numbers should be useful to those trying to identify and date tractors with these engines fitted instead of the proper tractor engine. Prior to The introduction of the 589-592 range engine the industrial engines had other designations ie 954E 4 cyl Diesel, 955E 4 cyl petrol, 956E Vap oil, 562E 4 cyl Diesel, and 563E 4 cyl petrol all versions of the tractor engine. I don`t have any serial number details of these engines. After April 1970 the old range of 4 cyl 592E engine was manufactured for Ford by Ebro in Spain and was supplied with a proper S industrial ford serial number until 1974 after which it became a purely Ebro engine with no Ford logo or serial number.

Ford Industrial Engine Serial Numbers (FORDSON TYPE)
589E 6 cyl petrol, 590E 6 cyl Diesel, 591E 4 cyl Petrol, 592E 4 cyl Diesel, see the later list for serial numbers after 1967 as 592E still available with Industrial S serial number up until 1974.

FORD THAMES TRADER ENGINE SERIAL NUMBERS.
528E 4 CYL PETROL, 530E 4 CYL DIESEL, 508E 6 CYL PETROL, 510E 6 CYL DIESEL
DATE 15TH OF MONTH

Ford Industrial Engine Serial Numbers (2700 RANGE)
2701E, 2703E, 2704E, 2706E, 2708E, 2709E FEB 1965 ~ NOV 1969
2704ET JULY 1968 ~ 1981?
2701C, 2703C, 2704C NOV 1969 ~ OCT 1970
2711E, 2712E, 2713E, 2714, 2715E OCT 1970 ~ 1982?

Last edited by Jimcdbts on Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:00 am, edited 7 times in total

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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine Serial Numbers
by Jimcdbts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:30 pm

I will need to try and edit it a bit as it was in the form of a table but when i posted it the borders didn`t cross over and the list is a wee bit jumbled. up .Have had this info for over 25 years as i used to work for a local engineering company where we used loads of Ford engines from our local power products dealer to install in all types of industrial plant and equipment. During My time it was mostly 2720 and BSD series engines but i do have all the books still and all the design installation books for the engines. Ford Power Products were great as you could build an installation and order up any parts within ford parts division as an OEM customer. We used parts from tractors, D series and cargo trucks , R series buses and even transits, we even used axles from the FW60’s, all ordered through the Ford Power Products division.
Jimcdbts
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine Serial Numbers
by Jimcdbts » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:08 am

In 1990 we took delivery of the last 2726T engines we could get as dagenham stopped production of 2700 range diesels for trucks and industry. Over the years we had all different models all now only as diesels. 2701E, 2701C, 2711E, 2712E, 2722, 2706E all 4 cyl, 2703E, 2703C, 2704C, 2704E, 2704ET, 2708E, 2709E, 2713E, 2714E, 2715E, 2723, 2725, 2726T, 2726TG, 2726TM and 2728T all 6 cyl. Most likely all these variations may be found in the Fordson major as a conversion either as 4 or 6 cylinders. and be used in all types of Ford based tractors. A turbocharged version of the 590E was also available.
Jimcdbts
Not Quite Blue Yet
Location: Blantyre, Glasgow ,Scotland,

From www.fordsontractorpages.nl

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Ford Serial Number Location

Ford tractor, truck and industrial diesel engine serial numbers shown above are stamped into the cylinder block casting on a machined “PAD” located on the right side of the engine near the front behind the fuel injection pump, just below the seam between the cylinder head and the cylinder block as shown on page 7 of the Lehman Marine Diesel Engine Operators Manual #4C61J below. On the Lehman marinized Ford engines, this “PAD” may be partially hidden behind the coolant piping from the bottom of the coolant reservoir.

The number embossed on the Ford Industrial Power Products ID plate in the “DATE SER No.” box as shown on the bottom left of the above manual page is not the actual Ford serial number. See item “3 – (Not Applicable)” above under the contents of the Identification plate.

A Lehman serial number can be found stamped into the coolant reservoir and into the exhaust manifold. These are not the Ford serial number for this engine.

From How to Identify Ford Diesel Engines.

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Ford Production Date on Engine Build Data Plate

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